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Opened 14 years ago

Last modified 14 years ago

#389 closed defect

WHIZARD 2 fails to integrate VBF channels correctly — at Version 5

Reported by: Juergen Reuter Owned by: kilian
Priority: P1 Milestone: v2.0.5
Component: core Version: 2.0.4
Severity: critical Keywords: wrong integration
Cc:

Description (last modified by Juergen Reuter)

The setup for VBF does not integrate with the same result as in WHIZARD 1, Helac or Sherpa. The process is e1, E1 => e1, E1, u, U, d, D, the result from WHIZARD 1 is 0.6521(55) fb. The WHIZARD 2 result however is 0.866(35) fb where the integration is stuck and does not improve at all:

| Initializating integration for process arsch:
| Phase space file 'xxxxx.phs' not found.
| Generating phase space configuration ...
| ... done.
| ... found 795 phase space channels, collected in 55 groves.
| Phase space: found 1051 equivalences between channels.
| Wrote phase-space configuration file 'arsch.phs'.
| iterations = 5:100000, 25:200000
| Applying user-defined cuts.
| Creating VAMP integration grids:
| Using phase-space channel equivalences.
| 100000 calls, 795 channels, 14 dimensions, 12 bins, stratified = T
| Integrating process 'arsch':
|=============================================================================|
| It      Calls  Integral[fb]  Error[fb]   Err[%]    Acc  Eff[%]   Chi2 N[It] |
|=============================================================================|
   1     100000  5.7038854E-01  9.58E-02   16.80   53.13*   1.21
   2     100000  5.4088309E-01  5.46E-02   10.09   31.90*   0.78
   3     100000  6.9953138E-01  6.56E-02    9.38   29.66*   0.24
   4     100000  9.0424999E-01  1.75E-01   19.33   61.12    0.17
^[[1;5C   5     100000  8.3137084E-01  1.26E-01   15.17   47.97*   0.05
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
   5     500000  6.3176528E-01  3.60E-02    5.69   40.26    0.05    2.30   5
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
   6     200000  8.3751280E-01  1.54E-01   18.34   82.00    0.02
   7     200000  8.7231558E-01  1.45E-01   16.60   74.25*   0.02
   8     200000  8.2172036E-01  4.00E-02    4.87   21.78*   0.01
   9     200000  8.4897070E-01  3.68E-02    4.33   19.36*   0.01
  10     200000  8.6302096E-01  3.54E-02    4.10   18.32*   0.01
  11     200000  8.6603706E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*   0.02
  12     200000  8.6603852E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*   0.03
  13     200000  8.6604215E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*   0.02
  14     200000  8.6608253E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*   0.00
  15     200000  8.6612555E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*   0.01
  16     200000  8.6612643E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*   0.04
  17     200000  8.6612643E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*   0.02
  18     200000  8.6612645E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*    NaN
  19     200000  8.6612647E-01  3.53E-02    4.08   18.23*    NaN

I attach the corresponding SINDARIN input file as well as the WHIZARD 1 input and output files.

Change History (10)

Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

Attachment: whizard.eeeeuudd.out added

W1 output

Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

Attachment: whizard.prc added

Process definition

Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

Attachment: whizard.cut1 added

WHIZARD 1 cut file

Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

Attachment: whizard.in added

WHIZARD 1 input file

Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

Attachment: sm_ext.sin added

WHIZARD 2 SINDARIN file

comment:1 Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

It looks like that this is indeed a wrong cut set-up, I did an angle cut between jet-jet which should not be there, and forgot the angle cut between lepton-lepton. Now it looks much better.

comment:2 Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

There are loads of numbers completely off. Either the phase space setup of WHIZARD 2 is BY FAR too sensitive to small fluctuations from different channels or there are some problems with the cuts not properly transported from one process to the other or there are still some problems lingering around with collinear singularities. It seems that problems are inherent always then if there are electrons in the final state for electron-positron initial state. I'm stymied.

comment:3 Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

The very problem seems to be the population of channels. It seems that according whether WHIZARD hits or misses a channel the outcome of the result is more or less arbitrary. So in principle for a 2->6 process we should always at least demand 15 iterations or even more (???).

comment:4 Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

Started test runs for the same process ten times. It really looks like the result is more or less arbitrary. Waiting for the final results.

comment:5 Changed 14 years ago by Juergen Reuter

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